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    Ssd & sata

    New PC has both a 128 GB SSD & 1 TB hard drive. How do you recommend managing these? All new program installls in hard drive and leave SSB for programs only? Both Win, PC & 3rd party program installs?

    Thank you

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    Windows and ALL programs in the SSD. Unless you install big games, you will have plenty of room in 128GB—but it's a good thing to leave a decent chunk of empty space on it anyway, for various reasons.
    Use Macrium Reflect to make an image of this before significant or tricky software changes—at least monthly, before the 2nd-Tuesday MS Updates.

    All your data [documents, photos, songs etc] in the HD. I recommend you change the location of the various "My Documents' type of folders from the SSD to the HD—r-click > Properties > Location tab.
    Backup this HD to DVD or an external drive or another PC/device as often as you need.

    If you install any big stuff like AA games or virtual machines, then you should put [most of] them on the HD, you won't have room on the SSD.
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    I have Windows, programs and most data on the SSD, except pictures and music as they are large and are generally read only, so they go on the HDD. Both are backed up to a 3rd HDD and that is robocopied to an external drive.

    cheers, Paul

    p.s. if you have virtual machines you want the best performance so the SSD would be ideal, except for the space issue.

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    Although it's a bit late in the day, it would have been easier to start with a 256 GB SSD. This would make some of the sensible suggestions made by Lugh and Paul T less necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BATcher View Post
    Although it's a bit late in the day, it would have been easier to start with a 256 GB SSD. This would make some of the sensible suggestions made by Lugh and Paul T less necessary.
    The disk writes would also be significantly faster

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    OK,l I took everyone's advice and I sent back the old unit. I will be receiving an HP Envy 17t with 256 gb SSD & 1 tb SATA.
    Now:
    When I get the PC, how should I go about transfering/setting up my info on my old Sony Vaio. The Sony has a 500 GB drive with about 292 GB total in use:
    The root directory shows as 77 GB,
    of which 14 gb is Program Files and Program Files X86.
    The Users Directory shows as 2.83 GB.
    Windows directory shows 30 GB.
    Program Data is just under 5.0 GB

    This is why I originally thought 128 GB SSD would be plenty. Duh!
    I am open to any and all ideas. There is nothing I've found on line, on HP, on Microsoft, etc. that gives any input to this issue.
    Thank you
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    Update: Harris, see following posts before acting on info in this one. I may have misunderstood what you want to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harris Guilmette View Post
    how should I go about transfering/setting up my info on my old Sony Vaio. The Sony has a 500 GB drive with about 292 GB total in use
    Here's the quick broad outline—post again if you need more help with individual steps.

    0. Create a Restore Point.

    1. Copy the ~200GB of data to another drive. Then delete them from the 500GB, so you leave only the systems & program files on the drive—ie those folders you mentioned.

    2. Create an image of the lighter 500GB with Macrium Reflect or similar.

    3. Restore that image to the new PC's SSD.

    4. Copy the ~200GB of data [from step 1 above] to the new 1TB drive.

    That should do it.
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    Lugh, in steps 2-3 you seem to be assuming Harris will be transferring the Sony OS to the new HP machine. Has Harris indicated that's his desire? If so, that could be fraught with difficulties regarding drivers and activation issues.

    Maybe I misunderstood, but my impression was he would keep the HP's OS and just wanted to know how to manage the space on two drives.

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    Do NOT delete anything from your old machine. This is your reference copy and backup.

    If you have an external drive you can use that to transfer your data. If not you should be able to do it via the network.
    Methods
    Your existing backup software may have a sync option. You still have to re-install everything and put in all the accounts / passwords.
    PCmover seems to move programs and data - it's not free, but it's not expensive.
    Manually - you must be joking!

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg1261 View Post
    Lugh, in steps 2-3 you seem to be assuming Harris will be transferring the Sony OS to the new HP machine. Has Harris indicated that's his desire? If so, that could be fraught with difficulties regarding drivers and activation issues.
    You're right Dan, that's what I assumed, and rereading his post suggests that was a bad assumption. I've put an update in my post to that effect.

    Maybe I misunderstood, but my impression was he would keep the HP's OS and just wanted to know how to manage the space on two drives.
    That makes a lot more sense, although already covered in posts #2 & #3 afaics.
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    I can't imagine trying to do this again without all of your help. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
    I'm learning and VERY appreciative.
    I'll patiently (who's kidding who?) await the new build and take your advice about putting a new thread then. You folks are great. Hope I can pay it forward.
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