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    I will destroy your life phishing scam

    Well I can put this in my collection next to the Chow Mau Lee scam letter

    I have always wanted to record one of the MS tech scam calls this will do for now.
    It was to an Email address given to advanceautoparts! Beware, and note the content of this maybe offensive to some!




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    Hello,  flopper.
    I text you because you are 1 of those people that downloaded the malware from the visited web page with porn.
    My virus grabbed all your personal information and turned on your web-camera that shoot the process of your onanism. Later the malware copied your contact list.
    I will delete the compromising video and info if you send me 330 $ in bitcoin.
    Use this address for payment:  1FGevkZx2hjgER92YUFdKYK6wAnW6TsL1B
    
    You have 24 h after reading my message to complete the payment.
    It is not necessary to tell me that you have paid. This bitcoin wallet was connected to you, my system will delete everything automatically after transfer verification.
    You can get 48 hours only write back +.
    You can complain to the police but nobody can solve your problem.
    I am foreigner. So they can not track me even for 8 months.
    Good luck. Dont forget about the ignominy.
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    Good one David, LOL
    I saw a news article about those scams just recently and they said that they were mainly going out to business's.

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    I really have a hard time understanding BitCoin transactions. How are using BitCoin transactions legal?

    I have friends who have been affected by ransomware somehow, go to place of business and use their bank accounts, credit cards, whatever method to make the required payment, But then that payment morphs to a BitCoin transaction. Sorry if I'm not explaining this right but I hope you get the picture,
    --- Doesn't that make the place of business and then the bank, credit card company or whatever other payment is set in motion part of the problem and why are they not held accountable as part of the process?
    --- Why are they not accountable for contributing to that hi-way robbery?
    --- Maybe it's more complicated than that, but why?

    One of my friends called me a few years ago who got caught in a ransomware situation & made her payment accordingly.
    The next day she called and told me about it.
    I told her to get to her bank immediately personally and find out where the money was going.
    She was told the payment was going to someplace in Australia, who knows what ever other paths afterward who knows.

    With all of that said, I suppose that leaves the door open for legal BitCoin transactions.
    --- But I suspect many of those legal transactions involve transferring money into untraceable accounts?
    --- If that's true, then another possibility enters the picture: now the owner is also part of why are they not held accountable for transferring "hidden" transactions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmptrgy View Post
    How are using BitCoin transactions legal?
    If there's no law against them, they're legal. Some countries have bans in place—Bangladesh, Dominican Republic, Equador, & Peru as far as I know. Russia & Iceland also have restrictions.

    the bank, credit card company or whatever other payment is set in motion part of the problem and why are they not held accountable as part of the process?
    If I write you a check for stolen goods, the post office isn't in the dock for delivering it, and the 2 banks & clearing house wouldn't have any liability. If I then escape by train and then plane, the transport companies won't be in trouble.

    legal BitCoin transactions
    BitCoin is similar to cash in ways, eg mostly untraceable and hence more suitable for transactions which the parties would prefer remain hidden. Nobody knows where cash goes, but it's legal in every country.
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    Wavy/David, for some reason, on my Chrome, the included box of your email to flopper scrolls widely from left to right, making it hard to follow the thought trend. Is there a way you can apply a width-wrap-around within that box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJS
    Wavy/David, for some reason, on my Chrome, the included box of your email to flopper scrolls widely from left to right, making it hard to follow the thought trend. Is there a way you can apply a width-wrap-around within that box?
    Here you go, Roland...
    Hello, flopper.
    I text you because you are 1 of those people that downloaded the malware from the visited web page with porn.
    My virus grabbed all your personal information and turned on your web-camera that shoot the process of your onanism. Later the malware copied your contact list.
    I will delete the compromising video and info if you send me 330 $ in bitcoin.
    Use this address for payment: 1FGevkZx2hjgER92YUFdKYK6wAnW6TsL1B

    You have 24 h after reading my message to complete the payment.
    It is not necessary to tell me that you have paid. This bitcoin wallet was connected to you, my system will delete everything automatically after transfer verification.
    You can get 48 hours only write back +.
    You can complain to the police but nobody can solve your problem.
    I am foreigner. So they can not track me even for 8 months.
    Good luck. Dont forget about the ignominy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
    Wavy/David, for some reason, on my Chrome, the included box of your email to flopper scrolls widely from left to right, making it hard to follow the thought trend. Is there a way you can apply a width-wrap-around within that box?

    I thought there was a way to have a drop down box to give the viewer the option. Is there such, I seem to recall that here but some stuff still does not work for me.

    BTW thanks Rick!

    I would still like to know how advanceautoparts.com managed to covey my email address to the scammers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy
    BTW thanks Rick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    I thought there was a way to have a drop down box to give the viewer the option. Is there such, I seem to recall that here but some stuff still does not work for me.
    You used a CODE box instead of a QUOTE box.

    Quote word-wraps, Code doesn't.
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    You are an accessory to a crime if you know about the crime. In many cases the financial institutions won't be aware that a crime is being committed. Largely because the criminals don't want them to know and have taken steps to conceal their activities.

    Bitcoin is used by these bad actors because it helps them cover their trail. The thing to know about Bitcoin is that it is a distributed currency with (I believe) guaranteed anonymity. This isn't an accident, it's a feature. Bitcoin devotees are often people who have a hate for central banks, or any form of central authority. Bitcoin is therefore designed to operate without central authority.

    The problem is, most conventional forms of justice and accountability requires a central authority (police, laws, courts, etc.).

    Given the setup, only decentralized consequences are available to your friend. I suggest you (or she) go on Twitter, or Facebook, or Windows Secrets. Get a real good rant going and try to recruit outrage from friends/followers! It's the modern Scarlet Letter and the public shaming lasts maybe a day, maybe a week or a month.

    An actual pitchfork wielding mob would be more satisfying, but then you'd have to deal with law enforcement after!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHarder View Post
    Bitcoin devotees are often people who have a hate for central banks, or any form of central authority. Bitcoin is therefore designed to operate without central authority.
    BitCoin and similar have another significant advantage, which is that a transaction can be 'cleared' in minutes instead of the days the established methods take, and without the involvement of the gatekeepers—your bank, my bank and the clearing house. Various banks are testing and developing their own uses of the underlying blockchain tech to take advantage of this in the future.
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    I know I got carried away with the accountability factor. I agree with the explanations, actually I had those "explanations" in the back of my mind but it just irks me how it's so easy to force computer users and businesses to pay to get back access to their data. I know I'm ranting, but if a rant is due, this is one of them.

    I have friends who got hit by ransomware and it astounds me that even though they didn't like to pay to get access to their data back, it astounds me their natural reaction was "all I had to do was go to x company and make the payment. When I asked them, why didn't you go to your bank or directly charge your credit card? Their answers were something like this "Oh it doesn't go that way" Oh well.

    @Lugh I wasn't aware of how a transaction can be cleared in minutes, thanks for that information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHarder View Post
    . The thing to know about Bitcoin is that it is a distributed currency with (I believe) guaranteed anonymity.
    FYI From Wikipedia
    Privacy

    Bitcoin is pseudonymous, meaning that funds are not tied to real-world entities but rather bitcoin addresses. Owners of bitcoin addresses are not explicitly identified, but all transactions on the blockchain are public. In addition, transactions can be linked to individuals and companies through "idioms of use" (e.g., transactions that spend coins from multiple inputs indicate that the inputs may have a common owner) and corroborating public transaction data with known information on owners of certain addresses.[111] Additionally, bitcoin exchanges, where bitcoins are traded for traditional currencies, may be required by law to collect personal information.[112]
    An actual pitchfork wielding mob would be more satisfying, but then you'd have to deal with law enforcement after!
    That would be more satisfying at least for a while but more importantly put one set of perpetrators out of bussiness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHarder View Post
    You are an accessory to a crime if you know about the crime.
    Not so. An accessory is someone who aids the commission of a crime without directly participating in its commission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macropod View Post
    Not so. An accessory is someone who aids the commission of a crime without directly participating in its commission.
    I know what you mean and I believe others do to.

    For my part I know I mentioned "I know I got carried away with the accountability factor" in post #12. I don't mind legal transactions through the Bit Coin system but in my mind the Bit Coin system is essentially an open door that allows the ransomeware crooks do what they do: I know, criminals will be criminals.

    Anyway thanks to your & others input, it just dawned on me today to hold a training session at our Senior Center on best practices to avoid being hit by ransomware along with what to do if there is a ransomware attack.

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